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Yashuo - July 11, 2006 01:44 AM (GMT)
Suicide, an object which many people rather not talk about.

Why is that so? Is it because we are afraid of the death? Is it something the society condemn and therefore we remain in silence?

Questioning myself.. I was wondering how people actually perceive suicide. What is your opinion about suicide considering aspects such as ethics/ religion etc..?

Is it wrong to commit suicide?


To the ones whom chose to leave our world.


May they finally find the peace they couldn't find in life.

veevee18 - July 11, 2006 02:20 AM (GMT)
hehe i am not afraid to talk of suicide and have not met many that are...

hmm i acutally never thot about it for myself, i dont see the point, and see it as a weak thing to do....
even tho, yea it would take a lot of actually be able to kill urself...so some may call it a strong thing to do... iono

seems like the easy way out....debatable

but yea i've had friends that have tried suicide before, none actually succeeded THANK HEAVENS!!! lol.... but yea

i'm not for it of course, but everything has an exception.
Like if your in a lot of pain, and u know u're gonna end up dieing ne way, so y not... but yea i just stick to everything has an exception so it really depends on the situtation

i just hate how some ppl commit suicide becuz of family issues or how much they think they're life sux. THATS STUPID... no offense to ne one,
but yea, those ppl should think that they're not the only one that are suffering and there probably are ppl in worst situations than them

ok that's all for rite now

~Sw33tz~ - July 11, 2006 02:55 AM (GMT)
suicide... hmmm..
it isn't a very happi thing 2 talk about but i think that people who do should really seek help.

coz life is always worth living... it might not be the best times of ur life but there are always something that would resolve it. it is always going to be like that

down right bad... then gets better.. good... bad again... it is a cycle... so if u are stuck at one place, u can't possibly progress into the next step. but if you are willing to take action to change ur stickiness, then u will proceed into the better situation.

suicide well umm... it is not weak or strong. it is just an easy way out that leaves so many ppl around you in pain and in suffering.

don't suicide... think, if you are feeling down, go and watch some series that you can cry and sob (u will feel better). srsly!

watch 1 Litre of Tears, you will appreciate life. Much more than you will ever perceive it.

Ramen - July 11, 2006 04:18 AM (GMT)
I think suicide is just for people who are so desperately wanting to get away from their problems in life.

It's true that it takes guts to commit suicide but if you think about it, in a way, suicide committers are also a coward because they're running away from problems whereas I believe that problems will always come as long as we live and that it is for us to face and not to avoid.

Life is a journey where there would always be obstacles, but in the end, those obstacles would just make the people stronger. Problems that comes naturally would be a process for people to grow up mentally and problems that comes because of a consequence from a deed, should be faced responsibly (dare to do, dare to face the cosequence)

For people who are thinking of commiting suicide, I think they really take life just for granted. Just because they are stuck with a big problem they are temporarily facing and they simply just give up their life. There are millions of people out there who couldn't enjoy their life/have less chance to make something big in their life just because they are sentenced with some deadly illness thus they can't avoid death.

Therefore for those people who are thinking of committing suicide, think twice. Life is too precious therefore appreciate the chance of living a life no matter how harsh the world is. All people would have their own personal problems so I think that everyone should strive for a solution just like how everyone else does instead of giving up that easily by ending their life.

Suicide is not solving a problem, but is running away from it.

indigolime - July 11, 2006 04:55 AM (GMT)
If someone commits suicide in a way that ends up harming other people (just to simplify this argument I am leaving out emotionally because there are too many factors involved in how someone can be affected emotionally by anything, but like killing himself while driving a bus with passengers, or terrorism), then I think it is wrong.

I don't think suicide can be explained as just simply escaping from a problem, or a weak decision. It is impossible to know what goes on in the heads of people who kill themselves, some might have a chemical imbalance or a mental disease. I can't easily say whether they made a stupid decision unless I am living their life and thinking the same way they do.

So overall I can only say that suicide is a personal choice.

Ramen - July 11, 2006 12:54 PM (GMT)
I think in my earlier post I've only mentioned about people comitting suicide because of problems. Therefore I think that's pathetic.

I haven't mentioned about people with mental disease who comit suicide. Well, in that case they're can't be 100% accused pathetic because they might not even in a conscious state when comitting the act. It is indeed sucha shame but nothing much can be done.

However I personally still don't think that it's a personal choice though. I've never thought of suicide as a choice in the first place.

Apple - July 11, 2006 06:03 PM (GMT)
i guess personally for me it's really wrong but i cannot really blame a person committing suicide coz yeah! we really don't know what goes on in their minds and why they did that and yes maybe it'a a way of running from all problems or maybe they just can't understand the meaning of their life and or they just feel so miserable about it... being in those situations people react diffently some are emotionally strong some are not ... some can take the blow of life, some could just feel the end of it all...the person who resort to suicide are i guess emotionally weak and really really hurt deep inside that they cannot just bear it anymore. Coz dealling with that kind of emotions every minute and every second of it is like a torture to the person that's why he/she commits suicide and would definitely feel so alone and i guess pathetic too . But to prevent that, people like that must have someone who really supports him/her no matter what! so they can't feel alone and pathetic.

Edison - July 11, 2006 09:33 PM (GMT)
Well in a religious way, suicide is really bad.

Also if you believe in ghost, people who commit suicide, their souls are trapped.

It is really scaryyyyyy :wacko:

indigolime - July 12, 2006 12:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ramen @ Jul 11 2006, 04:54 AM)

However I personally still don't think that it's a personal choice though. I've never thought of suicide as a choice in the first place.

I guess it's a personal choice for people who choose to make it a choice.

Ramen - July 12, 2006 01:14 AM (GMT)
What is your opinion about suicide considering aspects such as ethics/ religion etc..?

I guess if you put it that way then maybe it is. But the question of this topic is addressed to our own personal opinion, and that was my personal perspective regarding to said issue.

ps: religion wise, it's definitely wrong.

lonelyassassin - July 12, 2006 03:32 AM (GMT)
Suicide is stupid. I never think about suicide. But I've thought about dying (but not kill myself) when I'm down or something...lol.

My mom used to tell me, "God is forgiven. He forgives every sin except for suicide."

~Sw33tz~ - July 12, 2006 05:16 AM (GMT)
suicide is just something dat isn't good.
ramen ur journey... "Life is a journey where there would always be obstacles, but in the end, those obstacles would just make the people stronger." sorri but is dat ur def of journey for ur AOS^^
neywayz

suicidal ppl should realli take a look around them and see what is still positive in their life. there are ppl who wanna live but can't. they are there and they want to take away their life.

it is their choice. and sometimes nothing u do can make them stop or anything. but think b4 u do neyhing, as

life is a journey, a journye is full of obstacles which tests you emotionally, psychologically and physcially, when one door closes, another will always be opened. it is just the problem of finding that door.

Ramen - July 12, 2006 07:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
suicide is just something dat isn't good.
ramen ur journey... "Life is a journey where there would always be obstacles, but in the end, those obstacles would just make the people stronger." sorri but is dat ur def of journey for ur AOS^^
neywayz


Hahaha... well, u see how HSC has affected my life. How sad is that...

but no.. it's not my AOS. Mine begin with "Journey is a metaphor of life... etc" LOLs

As for the obstacles that make people stronger, I actually got that from church *sighs..* my life has been influenced by many things as u can see lol

but it's true. I think that when people face obstacles and they strive to settle it instead of trying to get out of it (especially with suicide), it will just make the people stronger. And I think as long as we live there will always be obstacles. People do grow up because of it as well.

QUOTE
life is a journey, a journye is full of obstacles which tests you emotionally, psychologically and physcially, when one door closes, another will always be opened. it is just the problem of finding that door.


now, is that your definition of Journey for ur AOS? lol

xCHELLy - July 12, 2006 08:21 PM (GMT)
Suicide .. . I think that's the worse thing that someone can ever do to themselves. I think that those who suicide take life for granted. They think their problems will NEVER go away when it will. They want to run away from their problems. Sucide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I think the people that suicide think their problem are worse when there could be others that have worse problems. It's just fustrating for me to see people who have perfectly DECENT lives and they want to end it for something stupid.. .

yanyan - July 12, 2006 08:31 PM (GMT)
wow, we have a thread about suicide.....is that suppose to be a bad sign.

It is really dumb for someone to try to kill themselves. I hope i won't meet anyone who will.

indigolime - July 13, 2006 12:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ramen @ Jul 11 2006, 05:14 PM)
What is your opinion about suicide considering aspects such as ethics/ religion etc..?

I guess if you put it that way then maybe it is. But the question of this topic is addressed to our own personal opinion, and that was my personal perspective regarding to said issue.

ps: religion wise, it's definitely wrong.

I think what I was just saying before was that without looking at it from a religious perspective, but just an ethical one, I couldn't quite peg suicide OVERALL as ethically wrong OR right because there are so many different situations and motivations behind it. (What if someone had to kill themselves in order to save the lives of others?) So because I couldn't simply label suicide as definitely ethically wrong or right, I just said it was the choice of someone who saw it as an option. Of course, if someone never thinks of it as an option, then in their case, it's not. I recognize that what you said was your opinion, hope you don't think I was trying to impose mine on you. :-)

qwertyuiop - July 19, 2006 01:11 AM (GMT)
suicide to me is for people who are depressed or down on themselves all the time. doing suicide to them means helping themselves free the pain that they are feeling

Apple - July 21, 2006 05:21 PM (GMT)
what you all guys said is right especially the thing with the life's journey... but what if a person really grows tired of living...? what if she can't see nothing good in life...? what is the person got tired of fighting and coping in the ways of life? and the only thing he/she knew is to end it...

i really get the life is a journey and every obstacles will make you stronger.. and i also believe that God wouldn't give all those trials/obstacles in life if he knows you couldn't take it... And that everything that happens in our lives has a reason... i'll go back to my question... what if a person's just got tired of living...?

DarkprinceMZ - July 24, 2006 03:15 PM (GMT)
yes thinking about doing that........................total depression can bring out ppl to suicide....

nugur - July 26, 2006 04:30 PM (GMT)
It hink suicide is totally wrong

i mean yur parents spend like years rasing you up and all of a sudden yru depress or sudden and decided to die

liek seriously who want to die anyway


You got only one chance at life , live it fully

xmz - July 29, 2006 08:04 PM (GMT)
i am against suicide, but there a some exceptions. I mean if you are really really serieusly sick and there is no way that you can get better than it is understandable if you don't want to live on anymore and that you want to end your life. but i mean if you are really healty and you want to kill your selfe because you can't stand the world or because if you are feeling very very down then i think it is really stupid. Cause you also have to think about the people who care about you, for instance your parents and your loved ones. And i think that those people should solve there problems and try to enjoy life cause really you only have one life and you should live it to the max.

@DarkprinceMZ

i know what you mean. i would lie if i would say that i haven't thinked about suicide, when i was totally depressed. but you have to try and get over it. try to find something(s) which are worth living for. try to find things you love or make you happy. and think about those things. just find things which want you to make you wish to live and try to dream and make wishes for the future. anything to get out of your depresseion.

kobe - August 6, 2006 02:40 PM (GMT)
hi everyone I have some thoughts about suicide. Well, this issue is a very hard thing to discuss. You really have to be in the person's shoes (the one thinking of suicide) to know what it feels like. I have never thought of suicide. I always thought of how other peoples lives would be affected if I wasn't put on this Earth. You know just think of how many things that are affected by your decisions. If you were to commit suicide it would undoubtedly hurt some many other people such as friends and family. It would rather be kind of selfish to commit to act because the person is only thinking about their on depression and troubles. If only the person would open up his/her eyes to see that they're not the only ones with trouble in this life they would able to overcome their hardships and move on. The truth is that everyone suffers in this life. It's a part of life there is rain and sun. Why should we focus on the rain when the sun is right behind that cloud waiting to peek through? Everything passes away like the clouds that are blown by the wind.

Linn - August 13, 2006 10:20 PM (GMT)
it's wrong even thu it seem right at the moment for those who want to commit suicide

it's bad for the family n friends who care for them..

it's also very irrisponsible for the person...instead of find a way out

n make the best of it...he/she takes the easy way out..

usagi77777772003 - September 23, 2006 09:26 AM (GMT)
I do believe it's wrong because you have no right to end your life like that and at the same time, hurt all the people who care about you. No matter what happens to you, know that there are always other people in far worse situations. You're not the only one suffering. So if they can make it, why can't you?

Apple - February 19, 2007 03:49 PM (GMT)
Lately, i hear more and more people committing suicide nowadays...

I got into thinking is life nowadayas more deppressing? Even celebrities do it...

Though it's wrong but now i kinda admire them coz they have guts to actually ends their lives... I know how hard it is to actually end your life... but those who've done it... MAn! it takes a lot of courage and maybe they're way so much discontented in their lives... sad thing to have happen but it actually happen in real life....

sakura23hearts - March 25, 2007 03:51 PM (GMT)
I agree with APPLE, it does take a lot of courage to end your life... i am not against it or for it, but i am pretty sure those who do it have their own reasons for it and has no other way to cure themselves... (maybe I am wrong)... but anyways, it's those who are left behind that hurt the most...

tanteun - April 30, 2007 03:33 AM (GMT)
i'm so againts of this action. I have no respect with people who's doing suicide with ANY reasons behind it. And i always said "stupid stupid and stupid" everytime i heard or read people doing it.

How hard your problems are or anything u called it as a reasons, there's must be a way, yes it could be not a better way and takes times .as long as u have a courage to face it with all the risks.

There's always a HOPE as long as you are ALIVE!! Lots of people fighting for their life and this kind of (suicide) people just throw it easily.

Depression is only an escape reason. Those are created by our mind , our thought and how we look things from the 'other' side.


swimfishyswim06 - June 3, 2007 07:20 AM (GMT)
I don't know exactly about suicide being "wrong" in an of itself. It's really hard when people are depressed, and rational thought tends to go to the wayside sometimes. The "wrong" part of suicide is that it's a very selfish thing to do, no matter how much "courage" it takes. It's a cowardly way to escape problems, because it means forgetting about all of the people left behind who are affected. And there are so many more people affected than you can even imagine.

Each person's actions have effects, and each person is connected to many other people, whether they know it or not. If a person commits suicide, all of those "connecting threads" are cut off suddenly, and it affects people's lives. The sad part is that a lot of people want to live once they start committing suicide... sometimes they survive, and sometimes it's too late. Life is too precious and worthwhile to throw it away, even when it seems exactly opposite.

I've had so many friends seriously think about suicide, and I've thought about it myself before, but it's never the "only way out." There are always other options and people who are willing to help. What takes even more courage than committing suicide is making the decision to get help... but it's definitely worth it.

xmz - February 16, 2008 11:27 PM (GMT)
i think a lot of people think about suicide once in their life but most of them will get on with their life again. but it still shocks me everytime to see people just throwing away their life. especially those of young people whose live haven't event really started.




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